"The library I was working from is a private library, and was not funded by the government – there were so many different cracks we fell into, but there is never ever a place that we landed and thought, this is a place where we could get some money!”

"I have more energy then I probably will as I get older. I’m sure I would love to get paid, but at the same time I enjoy what I’m doing, and I think I get things from it, and experiences and lessons learned from it that you can’t put a monetary value on."

"The challenge is always trying to come back to the work that we already do and validate that. I mean, why are we ashamed of this? Why do have we have to like - prove to all of these people that we’re just as good, it not better?"