"Because we all have this idea in our heads, this concept of what youth empowerment is, and yes, we do have program objectives, and we sit down and hash them at meetings, and we plan out what this is, what’s it going to look like, and we have our own ideals and everything. But it never actually shapes up that way when you’re working with human beings, and youth are very self-directed, motivated people."

"The challenge is always trying to come back to the work that we already do and validate that. I mean, why are we ashamed of this? Why do have we have to like - prove to all of these people that we’re just as good, it not better?"